How Do I Upload Media From Ancenstry to Family Historian

I take started attaching media files, like portraits of people, to FH.
I take also exported my GEDCOM to Ancestry.com, and so that others can run across my tree.
Is at that place a style that I can fairly easily get the media files that are already linked in the FH tree and paste them to the appropriate person on the Beginnings tree?

I suppose that another way to practice this is that I accept a cloud server. I could put all of my media files in a folder there, and so put a hyperlink in FH record as a note. At to the lowest degree that way others viewing Ancestry could tag the hyperlink and pull up the media paradigm.

Whatsoever all-time practices anyone can suggest?

Regards, d_c_Weber

Mail past **tatewise** » 21 Feb 2020 nineteen:00

Few (if whatsoever) online family tree products offering a style of uploading Media in bulk.

In most cases, it will involve a manual process of either uploading one epitome at a time, or every bit yous propose adding a URL one at a time.

Are you enlightened of the Export Gedcom File Plugin that transforms the FH GEDCOM into a dialect that meliorate matches the target product? It has specific settings for Ancestry.
FindMyPast does take a multiple Media ZIP file upload characteristic that sometimes works.
BUT are you aware of the copyright issues associated with putting images online?

BTW: Are yous aware of the privacy problems of putting the details of living people online?
There are tools to assistance you hide such sensitive details.
See Knowledge Base > Export to Website Without Sensitive Data.

If you lot need whatever further more than detailed advice then do enquire.

Post past **d_c_weber** » 21 Feb 2020 20:33

Mr. Tate:
Thanks for the fast response. I also wasn't aware of any of these things.

So, if I wanted to send a GEDCOM to Ancestry and get pictures sent too, allow's use an instance:
I accept an ancestor Walter Edmund Weber. A picture of him is https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/955 ... 188534126 here. This picture is a media jpg image in the FH binder for photographs, people.
So, what is the best way of getting this motion-picture show onto the family unit tree that I have for Walter Edmund Weber https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/pe ... 9439/facts. At that place is a identify on the tree to take linked media images. They call it "Gallery". Do I have to paste these in one at a time onto every page of the Ancestry.com pages for my tree called KWEBER?
If so, what happens later when my FH tree gets updated? So, say a twelvemonth from now I want to update the GEDCOM on Ancestry.com. Will this wipe out all of the media that I paw paste in one by one. If so, this will create a lot of work if I accept to re-paste in hundreds of images to Beginnings every year.

p.due south. I forgot how I exported my GEDCOM for Ancestry. I dubiety that I used a plugin. But, it seems to exist OK, except for the media thing.

Regards, Dave Weber

Postal service past **tatewise** » 21 Feb 2020 21:19

The first thing to check is the copyright of that picture of Walter. It is covered by the Terms and Weather 5. Content Used in the Services at https://world wide web.ancestry.com/cs/legal/terms ... ontentUsed.
Do you have the right to publish it online?

My understanding is that you will accept to upload and link each image separately.
I suspect that when you upload again yous volition take to repeat that process.

In that location may be an alternative technique that might simplify the process.
Checkout Cognition Base > Import from Beginnings website > Media Images.
The complimentary RootsMagic Essentials offers a TreeShare for Ancestry capability that synchronises their trees including Media in either direction. So if you export from FH to RootsMagic and TreeShare with Ancestry yous may reach your objective automatically.

I am surprised you lot have not noticed any missing information in the Ancestry tree.
The kind of things that may be missing are: custom Attributes, fact Age and Address values, some Notes, etc.
The Export Gedcom File Plugin makes the necessary corrections for those data types.
It has settings for many products including Ancestry and RootsMagic.

Finally, what are you lot doing near the privacy of living people data?
Yous are not immune by law to publish their details online without their express permission.

Post by **Mark1834** » 21 February 2020 22:43

If yous re-consign to RootsMagic, the Ancestry sync will regard it as a new tree. To keep continuity in Beginnings, you have to maintain the same RootsMagic database and update it from your new export by comparing the 2 databases and individually updating inverse records.

It's clunky, but it does work. However, at that place'south a lot of discussion on the RootsMagic equivalent to this forum virtually how unreliable the database comparing tool can be.

Post by **Mark1834** » 21 Feb 2020 23:03

Another comment - information technology never ceases to surprise me how many people upload copyrighted material as Ancestry images, particularly pictures of GRO certificates, census returns, and other such documents. Ancestry seem to plough a blind eye to information technology (cynically, more than traffic to their site, more take a chance of new subscribers, etc). And paw on heart, if I see such a certificate for somebody who's in my database equally well, do I note the details without ordering my own copy? Of grade I do, but I don't mine images of people - irrespective of copyright, they are unverified data, so how practise I know they are who they are claimed to be?

Postal service past **tatewise** » 22 Feb 2020 eleven:nineteen

Marking'south comments are obviously from somebody who is familiar with RootsMagic.
Even if RootsMagic and Ancestry create a new tree for each export, Dave only plans to do that once a twelvemonth, and the majority automatic migration of Media saves a lot of manual effort. Discarding the sometime tree is probably no not bad loss.

Mail by **Mark1834** » 22 Feb 2020 17:41

Agree, for that purpose it is fine. However, if you desire to exploit Ancestry hints yous accept to do by compare and update, otherwise each refresh resets your record of viewed hints and starts once again. A typical 1000 person tree can easily generate five-ten,000 hints over time!

Mail by **d_c_weber** » 22 Feb 2020 23:26

Mark, and Mike:
Thanks for the lead. And so, RootsMagic Essentials is a freeware that and I can export from FH --> RootsMagic. And then, export a second time RootsMagic --> Ancestry.com, and so delete my former tree on Beginnings.
Sounds piece of cake-peasy.
And then, when I consign to Rootmagic, does both the GEDCOM and the media get equally one bundle, and then the same when I send to Beginnings.com to create a new tree.

Regarding living people, how do I find out if other people can meet my living people on my Ancestry tree? Doesn't Ancestry hibernate the info of the living automatically?
For case, my record is here. Can you see my info? : https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/pe ... 9430/facts

Regards, Dave Weber

Mail service by **tatewise** » 23 Feb 2020 ten:46

To export from FH to RootsMagic use the Consign Gedcom File Plugin.
See Cognition Base > Consign Gedcom File Plugin for details.
Download the Plugin from the Plugin Store as advised in Knowledge Base > About Family Historian Plugins.

Later running the Plugin information technology will create an Consign binder inside your Project's Public folder.
That will incorporate a GEDCOM file and Media files to import into RootsMagic.
See Noesis Base > Export Gedcom File ~ (RMT) Roots Magic Tree for details.

Then utilize the TreeShare for Ancestry feature in RootsMagic, simply I don't know the details, and so peradventure Marker can assistance.

If you trust Ancestry to go on those tree details private and then that is your risk, but I yet think it courteous to let living people know. There is also the matter of epitome copyright to consider.
Have you checked the Ancestry Terms & Conditions?

Mail service by **ColeValleyGirl** » 23 Feb 2020 11:12

Beginnings sets people to private those people it can determine are living -- but information technology can't always determine that, so y'all do need to conider what information technology will display.

Exhibit A: My tree

HS W and llr are living people

Mail service by **Mark1834** » 23 Feb 2020 12:33

Personally, I'd rather keep my detailed research and information about living and other private people off Beginnings completely. I use a dedicated Python script that extracts bare bones data from my tree (but who, when, and where of key details such equally birth, baptism, marriage, death, burial, probate, census - converted to residence - etc) with no sources or media. All living and other individuals marked equally private (e.g. recently deceased or potentially sensitive 20th century illegitimate births) are excluded completely, as is any mention of families of such people. You could probably do the aforementioned thing with FH plugins, but the reward of the script for me is that it runs an identically defined excerpt every time with just a unmarried desktop double-click.

This basic GEDCOM file is imported to RootsMagic as a new database, and compared with my master RootsMagic copy for differences. After updating the RootsMagic principal copy, information technology is synced with my Ancestry tree (run into viewtopic.php?f=twoscore&t=16318 for a fuller discussion).

I'm afraid I take no feel of exporting a full FH database to RootsMagic or syncing that with Ancestry. I need to apply the paid version (less than £xx) for all the features I demand, but I call back the free version also does the basic Beginnings sync and then should be suitable for initial experiments at to the lowest degree.

Postal service by **d_c_weber** » 23 Feb 2020 13:59

Helen:
Thank you.
On your https://world wide web.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/ ... familyview the following people are private:
242090652894 [says "private"]
242120508501 [says "individual"]
242090652122 [is a "blank" box, & after opening profile, says this person living]
242090652212 [says "private"]
242090652145 [says "private"]

And then, I presume that when you wait at this tree, y'all come across the details of everyone (including the 5 above) and, when I (or anyone else), view the tape, I just encounter "private".
And that 120 years after the birth, the details of each person in this DB on Ancestry will appear to everyone.

And when y'all open up my hyperlink below, you can't encounter my birthday, and it says private.

Is this correct?

Regards, Dave Weber

Post by **ColeValleyGirl** » 23 Feb 2020 14:31

242090652894 is me.

I exported my Gedcom for Ancestry having anonymised all living people (with initials), and and then uploaded it to Beginnings.

I then added a few extra living people (myself, a half-sibling and their parent, once again with initials) to assistance with Dna investigation.

Tin can you see https://www.beginnings.co.u.k./family unit-tree/ ... 2145/facts

Mail by **Mark1834** » 23 February 2020 15:14

Acquit in mind that does non fully protect living people. You might exist individual, but if full details of deceased parents are provided, it'due south fairly easy to identify their children from public records, particularly if the tree says how many at that place are and their gender. I would now have a name, age, rough place of birth and mother's maiden name. If they are over fifty years former I could get the full nascence certificate without providing any further information. From there, work down through any siblings, matrimony records, children, etc.

That may exist a price you are prepared to pay, simply accept you checked it is ok with everybody in your tree? Identity theft is all near piecing together the clues...

Post past **Mark1834** » 23 Feb 2020 xvi:08

Sources reveal more unintended information - the source for Jane Smith's death, burying or probate volition probably give her married proper name, hence another potential piece of cake lead into finding children....

This has actually given me food for thought on my own public tree - I will delete all references to kickoff cousins and spouses of my parents' siblings, even if they have been expressionless for decades. For aunts and uncles (near of whom were born over a century ago, and all are deceased), information technology will just say when and where they died, non what their name on decease was or whether they had any children or not. To maintain access to their hints system, I will keep all these recent deceased ancestors in a separate private and unlisted tree. All living people will stay off completely (autonomously from my own Dna profile).

If everyone contacts me over a possible family link, I volition release further details only to them if I am satisfied that there is a potential link. With 20:twenty hindsight, I should probably have uploaded separate trees for my mother and begetter, as there is no overlap between them, but information technology's also late to rework all that now.

Mail service past **jimlad68** » 23 Feb 2020 20:38

When information technology works, I detect the Ancestry brake of private for 100 (or is it 120) years after birth too restrictive. Although I do my best to avert the potential hassle of showing living people **, I accept a few instances where I desire to brandish names; for that I just requite a death appointment way in the future, say 2999, and Ancestry shows the details I upload.
The only sure manner to exclude people on Beginnings, is not to put them there. What I practise is make them individual before I create the Gedcom file, that mode in that location is a skeleton tree of connections.

For those who continue a "alive working" tree on Ancestry it is very difficult, as from my by experience, it is important to have a valid date of nativity and naught in the death date. Beginnings might take fixed this, but after pointing out this problem some time agone, they seemed in no rush and then.

** For my function I can't understand why putting upwardly "already publicly available online data" should be a problem, it can't be for privacy reasons if the information is already online!

Postal service by **d_c_weber** » 24 February 2020 01:08

Helen:
i tin can't see annihilation on the link for the spouse of Helen Ethel Wright d. 2013, except the following:
Private
Nativity Unknown
Expiry Living

And then, we are protected for privacy.

Regards, Dave Weber

Post by **Mark1834** » 24 Feb 2020 10:19

Dave - probate gives married surname, which identifies marriage and husband proper name, so nosotros have already identified the "private" record. It'due south and then easy to discover their daughter, her wedlock, and two daughters built-in in the mid-1960s, none of whom are on the tree.

Y'all could exercise the same with my public Ancestry tree. Although in that location is nobody on in that location (even as a private entry) born since the 1930s apart from myself and no sources at all, it wouldn't be difficult to follow some of the entries through to living people today.

Whether anybody would actually go to that problem is debatable, simply the bespeak I am making is that any disclosure of a public tree tin can compromise privacy, and "privatising" entries is really just a fig foliage. I'm not suggesting nosotros all retreat into our bunkers, but simply that nosotros brand proper risk-based decisions on what we publish.

Jim - I'll challenge your concluding signal. If I discover that my late Aunt Mary or Uncle John had an illegitimate kid before their wedding, am I correct to publish that information if their nonetheless-living children are unaware that they have a half-sibling, even if I know that the child is no longer living? All the data are in the public domain already, but I have provided additional information past interpreting it. Data and information are not the same thing.

Mail service by **LornaCraig** » 24 Feb 2020 eleven:39

I know for a fact that Ancestry cannot be relied on to privatise the details of living people. I know of a tree which displays the names and exact dates of birth of three siblings, all of whom are nonetheless living. As far as I can tell, the tree owner is but very remotely connected to them and has no personal knowledge of them. Ironically I think the information came from one of Beginnings's own 'hints'. The source cited is a ship'due south passenger list. I think Ancestry probably gave a 'hint' that the parents (who are deceased) were in the passenger list. But their three children are besides in the list, complete with their exact dates of nascency, and so the tree owner added them to the tree. Beginnings has done nothing to privatise them.

Post by **jimlad68** » 24 Feb 2020 14:03

Mark - I did say "already publicly available online information", even so I would agree that in some cases sensitivity is desirable, especially as you say with interpretations.

Lorna, agreed, seems to add to/match my scenarios.

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